Rob Benedict Talks Family Don’t End With Blood, Louden Swain and Kings of Con!

One day last week, I was driving my niece to school with the Louden Swain ‘Saturday Night Special’ cd playing. My niece has a developmental disability and is not very verbal and that can make life extra challenging. It was early, but when Eskimo came on, without thinking I turned it up a bit and maybe started singing. And maybe started drumming on my steering wheel a little. (Hey, it’s one of my favorite songs, so…) Suddenly I heard a noise to my right and noticed movement. I turned my head, and my niece was not only humming along but was air drumming enthusiastically. With the BIGGEST smile on her face. I grinned back and we rocked the hell out of the rest of that song, and then put it on repeat. It was one of the most fun drives I’ve ever had at 8:00 in the morning.

A few days later, I had a chance to catch up with Rob Benedict and I shared that story.

Rob: Awww, that’s so sweet, I love that.

Lynn: Your music is pretty special, obviously.

Rob: That’s so great.

Lynn: it was. So thanks for that. Okay, so questions. First I wanted to ask you about the chapter you wrote for Family Don’t End With Blood. You really did write a very personal and very powerful chapter, all about having a stroke at the Toronto convention several years ago. So many fans who have read it have told me how moved they were by your chapter. What kind of feedback have you gotten, and how does it feel now to have written such a personal unguarded chapter?

Rob: It’s been absolutely overwhelming, the response. There are still a number of people who didn’t really know that happened to me. So it varies, from people feeling empathy to people saying a similar thing happened to someone that they know, or just that the sentiment was something that they recognized. People say the nicest things, about it being one of their favorite chapters in the book, and all sorts of unbelievably gracious and complimentary things. I wind up signing as many books as I do head shots of myself. I think it means a lot to people. And I don’t think you automatically get my autograph with your ticket to the con or whatever.

Lynn: No, you hardly ever do. Unfortunately.

Rob: Right, so people are buying that so I can sign their book, which I think is the biggest compliment to you and the effect that Family Don’t End With Blood has had on people.

Lynn: And to you, because your chapter is one of the ones that really made an impact! I’ve gotten such incredible reactions to the book. It had the exact effect that we were all hoping for – as support and inspiration for people when they’re struggling. I’ve heard stories of people sharing the book with their parent, saying this is what’s helping me not cut anymore. I’ve heard people say that this makes all the difference – that they’ve been ready to give up, and then went back and read one of the chapters about people they admire having their own life and death struggles – and decided to keep going.

Rob: Ah that’s amazing, that’s what I mean about it being overwhelming. It’s like, you almost can’t even fathom how much it means to people and how life saving it’s been. I’ve experienced that with our music as well. It’s something about this fandom that I don’t think people really comprehend. How deep it really goes.

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A Chat With Lee Majdoub – on Dirk Gently and Supernatural!

Sometimes you have to wait a little while for the good things. I’ve wanted to interview Lee Majdoub ever since he appeared as Hannah on Supernatural, taking over the role from Erica Carroll and making it his own while also nodding to the spark that had developed between Hannah and Castiel, which I thought was a great choice that said alot about the actor. He came to a Supernatural convention earlier this year as a guest of Ruth Connell (along with the Erica – double Hannahs!) and I had a chance to chat with him briefly there. He was warm and welcoming and frankly any friend of Ruth’s is a good enough testament for me! When he was cast on one of my other favorite shows, Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency (along with a bunch of other Supernatural alums), I absolutely had to chat with him. I caught up with Lee a few weeks ago to talk about both fascinating roles.

Lynn: You made a memorable entrance on Dirk Gently in the season 2 premiere as Silas Dengdamor – in part because of that passionate kiss with Panto Trost (Christopher Russell) That scene was important to fans, who are often looking for more LGBT representation in the shows they love. Did it feel important in that sense to you also?

Lee: That scene was very important to me, and Chris as well. We spoke a lot about the importance of building a relationship between Panto and Silas that was believable. The conversation around the kiss itself was about finding the balance between making it important without making the scene “about” the kiss. I’m really happy the fans liked it and felt represented. That was a huge sigh of relief for me.

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Lynn: It was important to fans too. The parallels to Romeo and Juliet seem obvious even in that first scene. Was that something mentioned explicitly or if not, does the parallel ring true to you now?

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Art in the SPNFamily: Part Three: Focus on Variety

Guest Post by Kim Prior

This is the final installment in my series of articles shining the spotlight on some of the talented artists within the SPNFamily. Friendly reminder that, for the purpose of these articles, I am spotlighting some of my favs. And you might agree, my favs might be your favs. But it’s also very possible that your fav might not be spotlighted in this series… and that’s ok. I mean no disrespect to your fav, I mean no disrespect to you, the Artist. Shine a spotlight on your favs by letting them know how much you appreciate what they do!

As I explained in the previous articles, “art” has a multitude of definitions. If you asked 100 people to give a definition of art, you would probably get 100 different answers. Art is photography. Art is painting. Art is drawing with graphite, charcoal, or ink.

In this article, you will learn that Art is a multitude of things. Art is painting and drawing, and it is also mixing in a plethora of other materials into these creations. Art is taking a piece of wood and fashioning a piece as unique as your idea. Art is taking wire and stone and other bits and pieces and forming these materials into beautiful pieces of wearable art. Art is taking an idea and adding your creative touch. Art is finding the right words to create pieces that evoke every emotion under the sun. Art is fabric and stitching and sewing and creating unique pieces. Art is, quite literally, a hundred… a thousand… tens of thousands of different things.

Take a walk with me, friends. Join with me in this journey into Art as I celebrate the talents of Amanda & Sammie, Anne, Candice, Jilly, Paula, Lisa, and Jodi!

Art by Anne Kirn
Art by Candice Langham
Art by Jilly M.
Art by Paula Mould
Art by Lisa Rourke
Fight the French Mistake
Art by Jodi Zulueta


Before I get to the first two artists, I want to be completely honest… *whispers* I have never read fan fiction. I read one piece a few years ago; I beta’d another piece not long after. Both pieces were pure… straight up… uninhibited… unadulterated… pornography. From those two experiences, combined with the bits and pieces I have seen on social media, I formed the opinion that all fan fiction was pornographic. To be clear, I am not judging, that’s just not my kind of thing. So I have never explored it any more than those two pieces.

I absolutely wanted to include fanfic writers in this series, in this article. So I approached two friends of mine, and I told them I’ve never read any fanfic, and I asked them to explain it to me, to convince me that I am truly missing out on a wonderful form of art.

Twitter @Dancing_Adrift
Amanda on AO3

Twitter @non_tiembo_mala

Amanda and Samantha were quite happy to try to sway me into this fictional world. I must admit, one of Amanda’s comments really intrigued me. She said her favorite genre is romance because she loves “people in love… I enjoy watching them fall in love, I enjoy seeing them overcome struggles because of love, I enjoy seeing them explore their fears or embrace new things via the emboldening power of love.” Okay, seriously, who doesn’t love that? Then Samantha explained that she likes to switch genres sometimes (fantasy to sci-fi to more standard fiction, etc) because it gives her an opportunity to “stretch different writing muscles, because different genres employ different tropes, language styles, etc.” I understand that! It can be so refreshing to step outside of the box sometimes!

They talked about their writing process. They take notes, jot down simple ideas, make lists of storylines and characters, expand those lists into outlines containing more detailed thoughts. They use Google docs, in part because it is a great medium for sharing and collaborating with others on any given piece. They also talked about Archive of Our Own, a site that is both organized and user-friendly. They talked about doing challenges, such as a Reverse Bang challenge where pieces of art are submitted and you choose one that inspires you to write… okay, seriously, I wanna do this.

I asked them about writers who have inspired them. While they did mention a few names, like J.K. Rowling (hello, um, #Lifegoals ), the actual statements they made about the source of inspiration was, frankly, inspiring. Samantha said, “I have been particularly blessed to receive encouragement and praise from writers I admire, and have recently been in a position to give that back to readers who have expressed similar feelings to my writing (a completely surreal, humbling, and heartwarming experience).” And then Amanda said, “These writers make me laugh, they make me cry, they make my heart hurt and soar in turns. They create beautiful worlds and scenarios that completely immerse me, and all just with their words. It’s amazing. It is simply my goal to try to do the same, just in my own way.” Wow. No really – WOW. What a community. It must be so rewarding to be in this fanfic world of support and collaboration and inspiration!

Amanda’s Favorite Piece

Okay, okay. Maybe I’ll check out this Archive of Our Own thing, maybe I’ll try to wade through the tags to find something a little less pornographic. Maybe I’ll look at this community of writers, and explore their works and their talents. Maybe I’ll start writing again… ok, no, I won’t go there again, but maybe I can at least try to read this fanfic stuff one more time.


Anne Kirn
Twitter @house_of_darkly

My next featured artist is Anne Kirn, aka House of Darkly. If you look up ‘jack-of-all-trades’ in the dictionary, I think it says ‘See also: Anne Kirn.’ She’s a photographer. She’s a graphic designer. She sews. The list goes on. And on.


In my opinion, the single most fascinating detail about Anne – and it is also the most inspiring – is her attitude. She’s incredibly talented, true, but it is her attitude that shines through in her work. I asked the artists about their process for creating their art. Anne’s comments included “self-taught, largely by finding the 99 ways that don’t work. Occasionally this has ended in setting something on fire. But only slightly…” and “My process involves staring, angst, and some cursing, usually all at once.” Anne tries things. She experiments. She fails. She tries again. She’s able to take a step back and study her project, re-think it, and try again. And through her method of trial-and-error, she maintains this wicked sense of humor. Frankly, I love that about her, and I think that’s a lesson we could all apply to our own lives.


Anne is inspired by anyone who’s accomplished in an area or genre and is dedicated to encouraging other people to create. It is therefore no surprise that she is an encourager. Her tip for other artists is simple: “If you want to be doing the thing, do the thing.” She went on to explain that it is important to pursue the so-called dumb ideas because sometimes these turn out to be the best ideas. She said that it is also important to take a break or step away sometimes. But the most important thing is “just be doing something.”


Candice Langham
Twitter @waitforfistbump
Instagram: @lady_art_project

Twitter @Art4Kindness

My next featured artist is Candice Langham. Her preferred genres include abstract realism and grunge art. She uses a variety of materials and mediums, including colored charcoal and wood/wood burning, and she enjoys creating sculptures out of different materials.

Candice is involved in Art 4 Kindness, a project she started and whose focus is raising money for charitable causes. She has raised money for several organizations including RAICE (an organization of lawyers that helps immigrants with legal assistance), Suicide Hotline and the Tiger Frances Foundation (an L.A. based non profit animal rescue). Candice also works with a children’s hospital, teaching free art classes.



Her process is more a visual thing. She finds inspiration in photographs and photographers, tv shows, and so on. She sees something, and an idea starts to form in her mind, causing her imagination to kick into overdrive. She explained, “Once the idea is formed I will stop at nothing to complete it.” Art is very fluid and has a way of speaking to you. I’ve always just gone with the flow, even mistakes in a piece can be important. This is why I love abstract art.”


Jilly M.
Twitter @jillyrulz

Jilly’s Blog

Jilly M. is the next artist. Although she has recently began drawing again – using colored pencils and focusing on Baby – her main area of creativity involves sewing, knitting, crocheting, and so on. She uses a variety of fabrics, including cotton, cotton/elastane, lingerie weight polyester, polyester toy stuffing, and yarn.

She wanted something unique to get autographed at a convention, but she couldn’t find what she wanted, so that motivated her to make her own item. She’s been making Supernatural dolls ever since.

Her favorites are the original Sam and Dean set. She has taken them to cons, and both dolls have been autographed by Jared and Jensen; the dolls have also appeared in a couple of J2 photo ops, so they’re very special to her. Mark Meloche (Supernatural VFX Supervisor) called her an artist! She said she hadn’t thought of herself as an artist until that moment. Oh trust me, you’re definitely an Artist!

Making the Supernatural dolls is Jilly’s hobby, but she does sell a few. Typically, she makes a set, then advertises them for sale, rather than looking for advance orders. The dolls are very labor intensive, but she just doesn’t feel right unless she’s working on a doll. She plans to introduce different characters to her expanding collection.

These dolls are quite complex. Each doll is approximately 13 inches tall. The faces are embroidered. She designs and sews the clothing herself. She buys clear buttons and then hand paints them to get the colors needed. Although the cowboy hats came from Build-A-Bear, she did her own design for Bobby’s hat. She said the work with these dolls is “mostly improvisation – I’ve learned whole a lot about thinking outside the box.” It takes at least 10 hours, and oftentimes more, from starting to finishing each doll.


Paula Mould

Twitter @PaulaMould

Instagram: @PaulaMould

Tumblr: @PaulaMould

Paula Mould is the next artist. She worked for years running her own tech business, painting off and on over those years. Two years ago, she began working as an artist professionally, putting to use her three art diplomas (Art Fundamentals, Interpretive Illustration, and Post Graduate Graphic Design).

Paula’s preferred genre is anything pop culture, including a slew of topics such as Doctor Who, Star Wars, Marvel, and of course Supernatural. She uses a multitude of mediums and materials, such as acrylic paints on canvas or wood; she often uses shells, stones, bits of bark for her mixed media pieces; she also uses inks, powdered copper, and glitter. Another interesting medium is something she called “encaustic mixed media.” This type of media involves painting with hot wax and oil paints. She said, “Ecaustic is difficult to work with because it has a mind of its own, but it smells amazing and for me it feels like mediation. Plus, the real bonus is you have to work with fire. I use a blow torch to burn the wax in.”

And for the record… someone once told her that fine art did not include glitter. She has used glitter in 14 different paintings, just to prove them wrong.

Paula is currently involved in a few projects. If you have been to a Supernatural convention recently, then you might have seen her paintings at the Attitudes In Reverse tables. She is the artist behind the large IMAlive paintings.

She is also part of The Cabal Creative; this group recently held their first international art show in Spain. Paula is also running a project called Finding Inclusivity ( . For this project, she is interviewing about 120 women (or people who identify as women), painting their portraits and writing their stories. “My goal is to take the usual story we have about women, especially in pop culture, and change it.”


Lisa M. Rourke
Etsy shop

Twitter @LMRourke


The next featured artist is Lisa Rourke. Not only does Lisa create pencil and color pencil/water color portraitures, she is also the artist behind the amazing customized Funko Pops! She has been customizing these for about two and a half years. She uses a variety of materials, including acrylic paints and brushes, Apoxie Sculpt and Milliput, sculpting tools, Xacto blades, sandpaper, pencils, and pastels.

Lisa was gracious enough to explain to me her process of customizing a Funko Pop. Sometimes she takes an existing Pop and repaints its features, per a customer’s order. However, other customization, called a Kitbash, takes much longer and is significantly more complex. The process begins by – literally – boiling the various Pops in water, to loosen all the glues. Then she starts taking apart the Pops, replacing parts, re-gluing, and creating a new customized item. From there, she begins adding the details, such as hair, clothing and accessories. She paints on the finishing touches. A Kitbash creation often takes a few weeks to complete.

Lisa surprised me with her answer to the question, who inspires you? She rattled off a list of names from several Funko Pop customizer groups, saying, “their work constantly amazes me and inspires me to keep practicing and improving my sculpting.” Let me repeat that. There are Funko Pop customizer groups. How freakin cool is that?! It just goes to show that no matter your passion, there are other people out there who not only share your passion, but also seek to encourage and support you in that passion. #Famdom


Jodi Zulueta

Twitter @eldwenne

Jodi Zulueta is the final artist in the spotlight. If you have been to a Salute to Supernatural Convention, then you have probably seen her in the vendors area. Her table is full of unique, beautiful pieces of jewelry… but let’s call it what it is – what Jodi creates is Wearable Art. She loves working with wire and glass, creating some stunning pieces!

Some artists begin with an idea. Others begin with a simple sketch. Others begin with a series of notes and thoughts scribbled onto napkins and pages, or as in my case, sticky notes. (I should probably buy stock in Post It, wait, let me jot that down…) Anyway, Jodi begins with the title. She said, “the pieces are inspired by the titles; the titles are what I was thinking of at the time I created it.” With the title in mind, the piece begins to form and take its shape. It can be finished in as little as half an hour, but usually much longer depending on the technique she is using, such as hammering, weaving, wire wrapping or painting.

Although Jodi’s “favorite” piece changes from time to time – I mean, look at her work, how could I even think of choosing a favorite – but right now one of her favorite pieces is “Family Don’t End with Blood,” a piece Lynn asked if she wanted to design. This piece is one of her favorites because of what it represents – particularly the chapters in “Family Don’t End With Blood” written by Kim Rhodes, Ruth Connell, Briana Buckmaster, and Rachel Miner. Jodi went on to explain that as she read these chapters, she came to realize the common thread through all them – embracing what made them different, finding strength when they were at their weakest, being absolutely transparent whether they’re in front of the camera or speaking with a fan, ultimately finding each other and creating their family.

With that commonality in mind, and being inspired by Family Don’t End With Blood, Jodi designed a piece that is “akin to a continuous journey with an embrace; finding ourselves and our families; choosing our families.” The piece is a gray/blue round luminous glass wrapped in layers: a silver layer, a black layer, and another silver layer, with a red crystal on top to represent family.

Jodi draws inspiration from a number of different people in her life. The support and encouragement from her husband and her children are immeasurable. She also mentioned the Vendor Squad, a group of vendors traveling the country, often attending the same conventions together. She said, “Their spirit, work ethic, and dedication to their crafts are beyond inspiring.” She also explained this Squad is a constant source of support and encouragement. They band together and promote one another’s work. If only we could live in a world where this kind of support and encouragement existed between corporations… what a world that would be.

I asked all of the artists a few key questions, and below are some of their responses.

Thoughts on tagging celebrities:

Anne summed it up best when she said, “My rule of thumb on tagging is never assume they will see it, but always assume they might see it, so it’s better to err on the side of caution.”

To Post, or Not to Post, that is the Question:
(and the answer seems to be – think first, and use some common sense!)

“In cases of hate/slander, it should be shut down immediately. Anything with the subject of malice and hate to me is not art. If you are creating art and truly love the subject, you should have respect for that and choose to display that love and respect.” – Candice
“These type of things should at least be tagged so people can choose whether or not to see it. There’s room for everyone, but I also believe we have an obligation to show respect to each other, and to the people we admire. There are some lines that shouldn’t be crossed.” – Jilly
“I think freedom of expression is very important and an artist should be allowed to post their artwork on social media. That being said, there’s a place for everything and I believe content should be rated or given a warning label so that if you do not want to see graphic pictures of violence or sex for example, you would not have to see it.” – Lisa

“Think to yourself… “Would I walk up and show this to a million people in the middle of times square on the coca cola marquee? No? Then maybe I shouldn’t post it.” We are all unique individuals that enjoy the right to be able to enjoy what we do enjoy. It’s about respecting others and knowing your audience. Basic manners is what it all comes down to. Embrace our differences, folks.” – Jodi

About crediting artists:
Without fail, they all agreed on the most basic of points: Don’t. Remove. Watermarks. It really is that simple, folks. Just don’t do it.

I think my favorite part of doing these interviews has been reading their advice for other artists struggling with self-doubt. Sometimes their advice sounds simple, such as “practice, practice, practice!” That might sound easy enough, but when your head is swirling with self-doubt and negativity, it can be hard to find the strength to practice your art on a given day. In times like that, Amanda, Samantha, and Lisa recommend reaching out to your fellow artists, seek out encouragement and support from your artist community.

Candice and Jilly both said, “Don’t give up.” They talked about the importance of making mistakes and learning from it. They said to stop comparing yourself to others, stop worrying about other people’s opinions, just keep going, keep working on the art you want to make.

Jodi said, “Strive for uniqueness, but don’t get hung up on perfection. Perfect is boring. Develop your own style and technique.” Anne echoed that when she said, “If you’re hung up on one thing, do something else.” Anne also said something that really resonated with me, “If you wouldn’t let someone say it to a friend of yours, don’t say it to yourself.”

And then there’s the advice from Paula. (I’m not crying, I just have something in my eye) She said, “If you paint or write for “likes” or validation, you’re doing it wrong. Paint because you can’t live without it. Write because the words are pounding inside of you, trying to get out. Be relentless in living up to your dreams. Don’t listen to the naysayers. But most of all, give yourself a break. If you need to feel your feelings, then feel them. These feelings will lead to new creations. Relish them.”

Another look at their wonderful art!

Photo by Anne Kirn
Art by Candice Langham
Art by Jilly M.
Art by Paula Mould
Art by Lisa M. Rourke
Art by Jodi Zulueta

Everyone’s advice is powerful and worth repeating, every day. But for me, it was this statement from Paula that really hit home, really punched me in the feels:

“If it’s in your blood, then do it. Create. Make. Be.”

I’m gonna need that on a shirt.

Please check out the links (found beneath their names throughout the article) for all of these wonderful artists!

-Kim Prior


Supernatural’s Gil McKinney and Osric Chau – On Writing Books, Releasing New Music and New Seasons of Television!


It’s been a while since I had a chance to sit down and chat with Gil McKinney and Osric Chau, two of my favorite guest stars on Supernatural (as Henry Winchester and Kevin Tran) so I was happy to catch up with them at the Supernatural convention in Chicago this summer.

It’s been a busy year for Gil – he has a new baby, wrote a chapter in Family Don’t End With Blood, and just released his first EP (How Was I To Know), produced by fellow SPN Family member and talented singer, Jason Manns. After a wildly successful kickstarter, the EP was released this summer to rave reviews. Family Don’t End With Blood, was released this summer as well, and many fans have said that Gil’s chapter has inspired them.

It’s been a busy year for Osric as well, who also wrote an inspiring and personal chapter in Family Don’t End With Blood. And of course because he’s a regular on the smash hit Dirk Gently, on BBC America. As we sat down to chat in Chicago, filming was just beginning on Season 2, which starts airing next month, and Dirk Gently was about to conquer Comic Con in the gigantic Hall H!

Gil and Osric did a panel together at this convention, something they haven’t done in a while. I was there for their first joint panel, several years ago, when they haltingly started to get to know each other after being thrown together somewhat randomly, and I watched as they developed a genuine fondness and a lot of chemistry. It was a joy to see them onstage together again.

A fan asked about the book they both wrote chapters in.

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Behind the Scenes of Supernatural with Robbie Thompson

One of the absolute highlights of this year’s Comic Con for me was sitting down to chat with Robbie Thompson, gifted comic writer and screenwriter who wrote some of my very favorite episodes of my very favorite show. That would be Supernatural, in case you didn’t know. Which is pretty much impossible unless you’ve just stumbled over this blog for the first time.

I attended Robbie’s panel on Intersectional Feminism in Comics, which was awesome and entirely inspiring, so we were all in a good mood afterwards. We decided to try to find a room where there weren’t a million people around, and took a bunch of friends with us – Laurena, Candice, Anne and Kamila – who were down with listening in to our epic interview. They will henceforth be referred to as the Peanut Gallery (‘PG’). For the most part, they were PG. The most part. Just sayin.

After several false starts traversing the ginormous convention center, including being barred from using the press room for our interview, we found an empty room with lots of empty round tables. Robbie, ever the intrepid one, shrugged and said, ‘how about this one?’

Occasionally a Comic Con staffer would come in, take a look at our oh-so-professional interview in progress, and quietly back out. Score!

I start the interview by tossing my handwritten notes about what I’m dying to ask and my little vintage audio recorder on the table.

R: (points to Lois Lane like tape recorder) Look at this, so professional..

L: Hey, it’s ancient, it’s done a million Supernatural interviews.

R: Uh oh, look at this, guys…(points to what appears to be a big stack of questions, a la Inside the Actor’s Studio)  There’s going to be some Bernard Pivot in there. There may be some things I say off the record…

L: Of course, you know I’m good with that. (but honestly? There weren’t many!)

R: Okay let’s do this!

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