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Supernatural VanCon 2014!

August 27, 2014

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The first con of the new season is always special as fans make the pilgrimage to Vancouver, basically a Supernatural fan’s Mecca. Many of us haven’t seen each other in a long time – reunions happen about every ten seconds at VanCon, with squeals of happiness and enthusiastic hugs and, if you’re lucky, a chance to grab a drink and catch up with someone else who fans the Show just like you do. I cherished the opportunity to meet so many people who I chat with online in person – and relished every fangirl hug. I wish I’d had about a hundred more hours so I could have done even more catching up!

And it’s not just the fans. There’s an energy to VanCon that’s different from other cons – an almost manic energy, because it’s been so long since the fans and the cast have been face to face. At this point, eight years of conventions behind them, the actors seem almost as excited to see the fans again as we are (most definitely) excited to see them. We’ve been enduring what seems like an endless Hellatus, but now the Show is filming again, which leaves fandom bursting with curiosity and anticipation – and makes for some excellent questions. The series regulars are quite good at knowing just what they can and can’t answer, so it also makes for some excellent responses. No real spoilers, but plenty of tantalizing hints. If it’s possible (and I didn’t think it was), I’m even MORE excited about Season 10 now!

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VanCon is also special because it’s the ‘hometown’ convention, so some of the crew come by to watch the panels or do panels themselves or just chat with fans. And everyone we talked to had the same thing to say about Season 10. The start of filming the 200th episode coincided with the first day of the con, and the crew was bursting with enthusiasm about the episode.

Kevin Parks: You’re gonna love it!

Adam Glass: You’re gonna love it!

Jim Michaels: You’re gonna love it!

We caught up briefly with Jason Fischer from the production office, who we interviewed for Supernatural Magazine a few seasons back, and with cinematographer extraordinaire Serge Ladouceur, who has a fascinating chapter in our new book, Fan Phenomena Supernatural. What did they say about the episode? I think you can guess.

Serge and Fan Phenomena Supernatural

Serge and Fan Phenomena Supernatural

Misha, Mark, Jared and Jensen seemed no less excited, especially about the opportunity to do a tenth season and about what they’ve shot of it so far. More from VanCon this weekend, but for now, a few tidbits from Jensen’s meet and greet. [Please note: this is not a transcript, just my personal recollection of a few favorite moments from the discussion]

Actually one of the funniest moments was before Jensen even joined us. A room full of 20 Supernatural fangirls waiting for Jensen Ackles is, needless to say, overflowing with nervous anticipation. Our lovely volunteer went over the rules and regulations (without singing them Richard Speight style, alas) and then confirmed via her headset that they were ready for our guest to be brought over.

“You should use a code, like they do at Comic Con,” one of the waiting fans suggested. Apparently they refer to the guest as “the package”, presumably to throw off those dangerous predatory fans who might…well, I have no clue what they might do, since the whole thing is silly, but whatever. It took us all about three seconds to realize just how much innuendo would be engendered by announcing “here comes the package” to herald Mr. Ackles’ arrival. Of course, at that moment, he did just that. Cue lots of stifled giggles. Hopefully Jensen just thought we were glad to see him.

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Jensen was eager to answer questions, as always, and in a great mood. My question was about the difficulty of playing a character who he has portrayed for nine years and knows inside out – as a different character. And yet not a different character. Dean, but not Dean. A demon, but still one with Dean’s memories and perhaps some of his emotions. Jensen confirmed that it was a significant challenge. Dean doesn’t care about anything, not his brother, not saving the world — all humanistic emotions are gone. (Which is difficult when the character has so much emotional depth). And yet, Jensen said, there are traces of that Dean who does love his brother – so playing that was a challenge.

Demon!Dean sounds like he’s going to be quite the handful, for both Sam and Crowley. The Mark gives him more power than your average demon, so when Crowley tries to get him focused on the task at hand, he’s just like, nah. (Even watching Jensen talk about the ‘new’ character is so intriguing – gimme now!)

“And then,” Jensen added, “I was also directing!” He rolled his eyes and laughed at himself. “So I’m directing AND essentially playing a new character. I love a challenge…and then I question why!”

There were times he was glad he had prepared so much, so he could just hand his director’s book over to AD Kevin Parks and say ‘it’s all in there’ so he could concentrate on playing Dean.

The other challenge of directing, he said, was a more technical one. He had to film a sort of cat and mouse chase in the bunker, but the bunker needed to look a lot bigger than it was. (By the way, that’s really saying something, because that set is HUGE!) Jensen went to Jerry Wanek for help, and they found ways to decorate the hallways to make them look like many different ones. It sounds like that scene will be amazing – similar to Hitchcock’s “Strangers On A Train”, with the protagonist going one way and the antagonist the other, until they eventually — inevitably — meet. *shivers with antici—-pation*

I was a happy fangirl because so much of the meet and greet focused on my favorite character of all time, which is always what I want to hear more about. I’m endlessly fascinated by Dean Winchester, and that doesn’t show any signs of diminishing any time soon (to the shock of exactly no one). Someone else asked about Dean in the pilot, and what drew Jensen to the part. He said the character jumped off the page right away for him, but he also gave a lot of credit to Eric Kripke, who created such a nuanced and layered character. He also gave credit to Jared, because the chemistry that he and Jared instantly had together took the characters to another level. It let them “fill in the blanks” to flesh out the relationship between the brothers.

Jensen also talked about Dean’s death scene in the S9 finale, although just listening to him talk about it made many of us in the room literally cringe. The emotion, for many fans, is still too raw. Jensen said that, as an audience member watching the Show, he really liked it. He liked that it was quiet. I hadn’t thought about that, but I think his acting choices in that scene, and Jared’s acting choices, really made the scene so much more powerful than it would have been. They chose to make it quiet, and the quiet simplicity of it only made it that much more horrifying. That much more real. Jensen played Dean’s reaction to being stabbed as shock, because that’s what would probably happen in real life. People lose an arm or a leg, they don’t yell and scream, they go into shock, not moving, not fighting. It’s not what we expect of Dean – we always expect him to come back swinging, grab for a knife, fight back. Or for Sam to get there just in time and swoop in and cut off the bad guy’s head. This time, none of that happened. The moment played out, almost in slow motion, almost silent except for the whoosh of Dean’s breath as his lungs are punctured, the grisly sucking sound of his flesh being pierced. Even now, I can’t think of it without shuddering.

This has been said before, but Jensen again said that he and Jared asked to cut the scene short and not say all the dialogue that was written. There was something like “we played it through”, but they felt it would have more impact if it was just “I’m proud of us.” I think they were right. Jeremy agreed. Jensen said it’s great to work with someone who doesn’t say, ‘just read what’s on the page, please’.

I’m always fascinated by how much the actors care about the Show and about their characters. After nine years, clearly their input is respected. In the scene where Dean pretended to warm up to Gadreel and shake his hand and then stabbed him instead, Jared asked if Sam would notice that Dean shook with his left hand, and Jensen replied that absolutely he would. That’s why there’s a quick shot of Sam’s perplexed reaction that was edited in.

One fan said she missed Dean being Dean, and Jensen allowed that he also misses “happy-go-lucky Dean”. It sounds like that Dean we know and love will be back eventually, a lighter Dean than in S9. Which is setting the bar pretty low, come to think of it. Dean was pretty dark in S9.

On a lighter note, a few last tidbits. Someone tried to get Jensen to tell us whether or not he sings in the 200th episode, which will be a “musical-ish” one.

“I’ll say this,” he answered. “Jensen doesn’t sing.”

(boyish grin)

(melting fangirls)

Someone gave him kudos for the little offhand comment at the Upfronts when he said the S9 finale would be “eye opening”.

“Did you know?” he asked, and then without waiting for an answer, “Of course you did. You’re all little geniuses.”

Well, obviously. We’re Supernatural fans, after all.

So who’s got a theory about what’s coming up in S10? Time will tell whether we’re all little geniuses – it’s nice that Jensen thinks so.

Stay tuned for more con reports, cast interviews and Vancouver adventures! Here are a few highlights…

Jensen cools off over the fan....

Jensen cools off over the fan….

Jared figures out the fan will make noise...

Jared figures out the fan will make noise…

Thomas comes looking for 'Uncle Jensen'

Thomas comes looking for ‘Uncle Jensen’

Brad Creasser does his infamous dance

Brad Creasser does his infamous dance

Jared takes Jensen's brand new Twitter avatar pic

Jared takes Jensen’s brand new Twitter avatar pic

Jensen joins Louden Swain and Rob Benedict

Jensen joins Louden Swain and Rob Benedict

Lots more to come!

–Lynn
To read more of our chats with Jensen, Jared,
Misha, Richard, Krikpe, Gamble and more, check
out our books on Supernatural – links at the top!

35 Comments leave one →
  1. August 27, 2014 6:52 am

    Always love to read your perspective on the cons. Am looking forward to seeing you in NJ. I love the brother dynamic that supernatural focuses on. Have you read any booked by Rob Thurman? She writes a mean brother storyline.

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:38 pm

      I haven’t read anything by her, but I’m a big fan of the brother dynamic too, so my guess is I’d enjoy those books as well. If only I could find some time to do more reading in between the writing! lol See you in NJ!

  2. seema permalink
    August 27, 2014 10:11 am

    i just can’t describe the feeling when i read/ hear/ see something related to SPN & J2m. This post was an amazing read. thanx.

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:38 pm

      I know what you mean🙂

  3. August 27, 2014 12:09 pm

    So glad to hear about the parts I didn’t get in on. I kept walking up to the front and asking people where you were, and never caught up with you. Maybe next time.
    I got to ask Misha a question–I asked whether, now that he gets cultural and literary references, the character would be less fun to play. He replied that lots of stuff will still be going right over Castiel’s head.
    It was an amazing experience, being there!

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:39 pm

      I can’t believe we didn’t get to say hi in person!! Next time!!

      That was an excellent question for Misha, and I liked his answer too🙂

  4. August 27, 2014 12:29 pm

    Thanks, this sounds like one of the best meet and greets Jensen has done and it’s great to read about his acting and directing. It’s a shame we don’t get this more in the panels as this is the kind of thing I like to know about. As for Demon Dean, I cannot wait and know Jensen will do a great job, I don’t suppose Jensen mentioned when real Dean was coming back, I really don’t like the rumours that he returns in the 4th episode and am looking for reassurance that Demon Dean will stick around for longer than that.

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:40 pm

      Jensen didn’t say anything specific about when actual Dean will be back – I’m with you in looking forward to Demon Dean and hoping he stays around for a while. My guess is that it won’t be for too long, but that it also won’t end just like that either….

  5. August 27, 2014 12:41 pm

    OMG! Dean’s gonna sing!

    Thank you, thank you for this wonderful report. I live vicariously through you!

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:41 pm

      Haha, you’re welcome! I’m so looking forward to the 200th ep🙂

  6. Karin permalink
    August 27, 2014 12:46 pm

    Guh! Jensen Ackles will be the death of me! I love when he talks about the process of acting and directing. Such an amazing man!

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:41 pm

      I love it too – my questions are always about the acting process or his choices for the character, since that’s what fascinates me🙂

  7. Lídia permalink
    August 27, 2014 2:47 pm

    Thank you so much!

    Jensen is amazing as usual!

  8. Gill Rann (@OzE_G) permalink
    August 27, 2014 2:49 pm

    Finally I get to read about a con I actually attended! #VanCon (and the Location Tour) was awesome, and I’m so glad I came It does seem to be Supernatural fans’ Mecca. Thanks for your insights and the info I missed ’cause I wasn’t part of the meet-and-greet or the Gold panel (I was Silver). It’s a pity I can’t return for the 10th anniversary.

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:42 pm

      So glad you got to come to VanCon and had a blast – here’s hoping the Show stays on for a while and you can come back again🙂

  9. elizabeth permalink
    August 27, 2014 5:20 pm

    this is so painful.. all the guys manage to do is increase my excitement for s10 beyond containment. i am gonna burst very soon.. thank you soooooo much!!!! cant wait for more!! hopefully i will be there next year if all goes well.. CAN’T. WAIT.

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:43 pm

      It’s true, the excitement is reaching a fever pitch at this point (but I love it)😉

  10. August 27, 2014 6:49 pm

    Lynn, thank you for your recollections from the Meet & Greet. I was also there (I was the one asking about watching the fan reactions, and his quip about “a real eye opener”.

    I just wish I had known you would be there – I would have brought my books to get your autograph!

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:43 pm

      I wish I’d known that was you – great question! Nice to sort of meet you at least🙂

      • September 1, 2014 4:39 pm

        Well, now that I’ve been bitten by the Con bug, perhaps I will see you at another Con. Already planning to go to Vegas!

  11. Freya922 permalink
    August 27, 2014 10:58 pm

    I was dying of Van Con envy all weekend, but the one thing that helped was knowing there would be lovely reports like this to enjoy after the fact. Thank your for sharing your experiences, insights, and pics!

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:44 pm

      Thank you so much for this comment – it makes all the hours taking pics and writing reports worthwhile. I love that other fans share when I can’t be there and appreciate every photo taken and shared with fandom – it’s what fandom is all about, after all!

  12. August 28, 2014 3:12 am

    Thanks so much. I love a happy Jensen. Dean’s death scene was played perfectly. It was so good I can’t think about it too much. I’m going to miss Dean but I can’t wait to see what Jensen does with Demon Dean.

  13. August 28, 2014 6:37 am

    Jensen is such an amazing actor. I’m on the edge of my seat waiting for season 10 to begin. Vancon does sound amazing. I have been to Dallas 2 years running. I love it. Although, it is never the big “love fest” you describe at cons. No one is as welcoming as you always describe. It has never stopped me from enjoying myself. I’m going again this year!

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:46 pm

      I think that’s the perfect attitude to have about cons – no matter what happens, don’t let it stop you from enjoying yourself! And come say hi at Dallas Con so I can smish you🙂

  14. Jena permalink
    August 28, 2014 11:39 am

    Thanks for this write up of the Always Amazing Mr. Ackles’ M&G at VanCon. I loved that he talked about Dean’s death scene. That scene was so wonderfully done, IMO. The best of the season for me. Shockingly quiet was the way to go this time, IMO also. I love that Jensen has such a feel for what works both with his own character AND within the show as a whole. He is so talented. It must have been a joy to listen to him speak about his work and the many hats he wears BTS when he directs. I wish that the questions during the panels would be more conducive to the types of discussions that we get in these more intimate settings. Thanks again for sharing some of it with us.

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:47 pm

      You’re very welcome – it is, for me, a joy to hear him talk about his character (the one I adore) and to know how seriously he takes playing that role and making this Show. I feel tremendously grateful that all the SPN actors care so much. And it shows.

  15. Lily1002 permalink
    August 28, 2014 11:50 am

    Thank you for sharing your experience at VanCon. It’s great to read people who are still enthusiastic about the show and looking forward to ehat’s coming.

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:47 pm

      That’s me!!🙂 And you’re very welcome🙂

  16. Summer permalink
    August 28, 2014 6:47 pm

    Great report! Can’t wait to see lighter Dean! Thanks!

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:48 pm

      Hi Summer! Me too, I think we’ve all missed him. I’m looking forward to both Demon Dean and to Dean being more himself also. So much to look forward to🙂

  17. August 30, 2014 3:51 pm

    That was a fun read about the M&G with “the package” Nice job Lynn!

    • spnfans permalink
      September 1, 2014 2:49 pm

      Hi Kar! Haha, that was such a funny moment and then I couldn’t stop giggling. It was like being in church when you know you have to be quiet and you just keep remembering something hysterical…. hehe

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